FiddlesticksVSIvern

What decides the jungle matchup: Fiddlesticks vs Ivern in League of Legends

What decides the jungle

A tactical read of the jungle matchup, written from LaneDiff's champion notes: what each champion threatens, and the one thing to do about it before three minutes. It is analysis, not a match sample, so there is no win rate on this page.

Both are farming scaler champions in this lane: Clears camps rather than ganking early, which leaves the lanes free to play forward before six.

Fiddlesticks

jungle · Farming scaler

He farms to six, then ults from fog. Ward the deep brush near your lane before then.

Fiddlesticks' Crowstorm from unwarded fog is the whole champion; his effigies fake wards, so real deep vision before 6:00 decides lanes.

Ivern

jungle · Farming scaler

Ivern free-farms and rarely ganks early. Shove your lane, and don't chase into Daisy later.

Ivern's marking clear leaves lanes alone pre-6; his threat is Daisy plus brush placement in mid-game fights, not early ganks.

Fiddlesticks vs Ivern: Common Questions

Who wins Fiddlesticks vs Ivern?
LaneDiff has not analysed enough ranked jungle games of Fiddlesticks against Ivern to publish a win rate, and does not estimate one. What decides the lane is which player respects the other's threat first. Fiddlesticks: He farms to six, then ults from fog. Ward the deep brush near your lane before then. Ivern: Ivern free-farms and rarely ganks early. Shove your lane, and don't chase into Daisy later.
How do you play the Fiddlesticks Ivern matchup?
Fiddlesticks and Ivern are both farming scaler champions in the jungle matchup: Clears camps rather than ganking early, which leaves the lanes free to play forward before six. Fiddlesticks' Crowstorm from unwarded fog is the whole champion; his effigies fake wards, so real deep vision before 6:00 decides lanes. Ivern's marking clear leaves lanes alone pre-6; his threat is Daisy plus brush placement in mid-game fights, not early ganks.
What should I know about Ivern vs Fiddlesticks?
Ivern and Fiddlesticks are both farming scaler champions: Clears camps rather than ganking early, which leaves the lanes free to play forward before six. What separates them is what each one does with it. Ivern: Ivern free-farms and rarely ganks early. Shove your lane, and don't chase into Daisy later. Fiddlesticks: He farms to six, then ults from fog. Ward the deep brush near your lane before then.
How do I beat Ivern as Fiddlesticks?
Ivern's marking clear leaves lanes alone pre-6; his threat is Daisy plus brush placement in mid-game fights, not early ganks. Ivern free-farms and rarely ganks early. Shove your lane, and don't chase into Daisy later. LaneDiff's live scan then tells you which Ivern you have drawn: their recent form on the champion, whether they are on a loss streak, and whether they are smurfing, because the player in front of you moves the odds more than the matchup does.

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