FiddlesticksVSGraves

What decides the jungle matchup: Fiddlesticks vs Graves in League of Legends

What decides the jungle

A tactical read of the jungle matchup, written from LaneDiff's champion notes: what each champion threatens, and the one thing to do about it before three minutes. It is analysis, not a match sample, so there is no win rate on this page.

Fiddlesticks

jungle · Farming scaler

Clears camps rather than ganking early, which leaves the lanes free to play forward before six.

He farms to six, then ults from fog. Ward the deep brush near your lane before then.

Fiddlesticks' Crowstorm from unwarded fog is the whole champion; his effigies fake wards, so real deep vision before 6:00 decides lanes.

Graves

jungle · Jungle invader

Starts the fight inside your own jungle, so tracking and numbers matter more than pathing.

He wins early jungle fights. Never face-check, and light your buff entrances by three minutes.

Window: before three minutes

Graves out-duels nearly every jungler pre-6 and invades off it; brush control turns his auto-reset burst against him.

Fiddlesticks vs Graves: Common Questions

Who wins Fiddlesticks vs Graves?
LaneDiff has not analysed enough ranked jungle games of Fiddlesticks against Graves to publish a win rate, and does not estimate one. What decides the lane is which player respects the other's threat first. Fiddlesticks: He farms to six, then ults from fog. Ward the deep brush near your lane before then. Graves: He wins early jungle fights. Never face-check, and light your buff entrances by three minutes.
How do you play the Fiddlesticks Graves matchup?
It is a jungle matchup between a farming scaler and a jungle invader. Fiddlesticks' Crowstorm from unwarded fog is the whole champion; his effigies fake wards, so real deep vision before 6:00 decides lanes. Graves out-duels nearly every jungler pre-6 and invades off it; brush control turns his auto-reset burst against him.
What should I know about Graves vs Fiddlesticks?
Graves is a jungle invader: Starts the fight inside your own jungle, so tracking and numbers matter more than pathing. Fiddlesticks is a farming scaler: Clears camps rather than ganking early, which leaves the lanes free to play forward before six. Graves: He wins early jungle fights. Never face-check, and light your buff entrances by three minutes. Fiddlesticks: He farms to six, then ults from fog. Ward the deep brush near your lane before then.
How do I beat Graves as Fiddlesticks?
Graves out-duels nearly every jungler pre-6 and invades off it; brush control turns his auto-reset burst against him. He wins early jungle fights. Never face-check, and light your buff entrances by three minutes. LaneDiff's live scan then tells you which Graves you have drawn: their recent form on the champion, whether they are on a loss streak, and whether they are smurfing, because the player in front of you moves the odds more than the matchup does.

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